Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) vs Hermes 4 405B vs Apertus 70B
Too close to call on our weighted score (Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) 35, Hermes 4 405B 35, Apertus 70B 32). The right pick depends on what you value most.
Alibaba (Qwen)Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)
35/100- ECI—
- Price$0.50 / $6.00
- Context262K
Nous ResearchHermes 4 405B
35/100- ECI—
- Price$1.00 / $3.00
- Context131K
Swiss AI
Apertus 70B
32/100- ECI—
- Price$0.82 / $2.42
- Context66K
Too close to call
It is close. Our weighted score puts them within a point (Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) 35/100, Hermes 4 405B 35/100, Apertus 70B 32/100), so choose by what matters most for your work: Apertus 70B on price and Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) for long inputs. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
- CapabilityNot enough dataNo independent benchmark covers every model here yet
- Lowest priceApertus 70BApertus 70B $1.22 · Hermes 4 405B $1.50 · Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) $1.88 per 1M tokens (3:1 blend)
- Longest contextQwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) 262,144 · Hermes 4 405B 131,072 · Apertus 70B 65,536 tokens
- Widest inputsSame inputsQwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking): Text · Hermes 4 405B: Text · Apertus 70B: Text
- Self-hostingAll open weightsEvery model here can be downloaded and run on your own hardware
| Measure | Weight | Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) | Hermes 4 405B | Apertus 70B |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Price | 50% | 35 | 40 | 44 |
| Inputs & features | 30% | 35 | 35 | 25 |
| Context window | 20% | 37 | 25 | 12 |
| Overall | 100% | 35/100 | 35/100 | 32/100 |
Left out because at least one model lacks the data: capability. The remaining weights were rescaled.
Every spec in one table
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| Specification | Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)Alibaba (Qwen) | Hermes 4 405BNous Research | Apertus 70BSwiss AI |
|---|---|---|---|
| Capability | |||
| Capabilities Index (ECI) | — | — | — |
| ECI rank | — | — | — |
| Price per million tokens | |||
| Input | $0.50 (best) | $1.00 | $0.82 |
| Output | $6.00 | $3.00 | $2.42 (best) |
| Cached input | — | — | — |
| Blended (3:1) | $1.88 | $1.50 | $1.22 (best) |
| Long-context rate | Same rate | Same rate | Same rate |
| Price source | Official Alibaba API | Median of 5 providers | Median of 3 providers |
| Limits | |||
| Context window | 262,144 tokens (best) | 131,072 tokens | 65,536 tokens |
| Max output | 32,768 tokens | 117,964 tokens (best) | 8,192 tokens |
| Inputs and features | |||
| Text | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Images | No | No | No |
| PDFs | No | No | No |
| Audio | No | No | No |
| Video | No | No | No |
| Reasoning | Yes | Yes | No |
| Tool calling | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Structured output | No | No | No |
| Availability | |||
| Weights | Open | Open | OpenApache-2.0 |
| API model ID | qwen3-next-80b-a3b-thinking | — | — |
| API providers | 7 (best) | 5 | 3 |
| Released | Sep 2025 | Aug 26, 2025 | Sep 2, 2025 |
| Knowledge cutoff | Apr 2025 | Aug 31, 2024 | Sep 2025 |
What would a month cost?
Enter your expected volume in millions of tokens. List prices only; caching and batch discounts would lower these.
- Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)$17.00
- Hermes 4 405B$16.00
- Apertus 70B$13.04
Which should you choose?
Which is better: Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking), Hermes 4 405B or Apertus 70B?
It is close. Our weighted score puts them within a point (Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) 35/100, Hermes 4 405B 35/100, Apertus 70B 32/100), so choose by what matters most for your work: Apertus 70B on price and Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) for long inputs. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
Which is cheaper, Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking), Hermes 4 405B or Apertus 70B?
Apertus 70B is cheaper at $0.82 input / $2.42 output per million tokens (median across 3 API providers). Hermes 4 405B costs $1.00 input / $3.00 output per million tokens (median across 5 API providers); Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) costs $0.50 input / $6.00 output per million tokens (official Alibaba API price). At a typical mix of three input tokens to one output token, that is $1.22 per million tokens for Apertus 70B versus $1.50 for Hermes 4 405B (1.2× as much) and $1.88 for Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) (1.5× as much).
Which scores higher on benchmarks?
There is no independent benchmark that covers all three models yet. Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) has not been scored yet, Hermes 4 405B has not been scored yet and Apertus 70B has not been scored yet.
Which is better for coding?
There are no published SWE-bench Verified results for Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking), Hermes 4 405B and Apertus 70B yet, so there is no like-for-like coding score. Test both on a sample of your own tasks. All three support tool calling for agent workflows.
Which has the bigger context window?
Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) has the largest context window at 262,144 tokens, against 131,072 for Hermes 4 405B and 65,536 for Apertus 70B. Maximum output per response: Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) up to 32,768, Hermes 4 405B up to 117,964, Apertus 70B up to 8,192 tokens.
Which can read images, PDFs, audio or video?
Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) accepts text; Hermes 4 405B accepts text; Apertus 70B accepts text. They handle the same number of input types.
Are any of these open source?
Yes, all three publish their weights (Apache-2.0), so you can self-host them.
Which is newer?
Apertus 70B is the newest, released Sep 2, 2025. Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) came out Sep 2025; Hermes 4 405B came out Aug 26, 2025. Knowledge cutoff: Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) Apr 2025, Hermes 4 405B Aug 31, 2024, Apertus 70B Sep 2025.
How do you decide the winner?
Each model gets a 0–100 score on capability (50%, independent benchmark results); price (25%, blended price per million tokens (3 input : 1 output), log scale); inputs & features (15%, image, PDF, audio and video input, tool calling, structured output and reasoning); context window (10%, maximum tokens per request, log scale). Dimensions missing for any model are dropped and the remaining weights rescaled, so every model is judged on the same evidence. Specs and prices come from public model listings and the labs’ own API pages; capability scores come from independent benchmark runs. Data updated Nov 2, 2026.
