Hermes 4 405B vs Qwen3 Max Preview vs Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)
Too close to call on our weighted score (Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) 35, Hermes 4 405B 35, Qwen3 Max Preview 33). The right pick depends on what you value most.
Nous ResearchHermes 4 405B
35/100- ECI—
- Price$1.00 / $3.00
- Context131K
Alibaba (Qwen)Qwen3 Max Preview
33/100- ECI—
- Price$0.975 / $4.14
- Context262K
- Alibaba (Qwen)
Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)
35/100- ECI—
- Price$0.50 / $6.00
- Context262K
Too close to call
It is close. Our weighted score puts them within a point (Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) 35/100, Hermes 4 405B 35/100, Qwen3 Max Preview 33/100), so choose by what matters most for your work: Hermes 4 405B on price. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
- CapabilityNot enough dataNo independent benchmark covers every model here yet
- Lowest priceHermes 4 405BHermes 4 405B $1.50 · Qwen3 Max Preview $1.77 · Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) $1.88 per 1M tokens (3:1 blend)
- Longest contextQwen3 Max Preview and Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)Qwen3 Max Preview 262,144 · Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) 262,144 · Hermes 4 405B 131,072 tokens
- Widest inputsSame inputsHermes 4 405B: Text · Qwen3 Max Preview: Text · Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking): Text
- Self-hostingHermes 4 405B and Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)Publishes downloadable weights
| Measure | Weight | Hermes 4 405B | Qwen3 Max Preview | Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Price | 50% | 40 | 37 | 35 |
| Inputs & features | 30% | 35 | 25 | 35 |
| Context window | 20% | 25 | 37 | 37 |
| Overall | 100% | 35/100 | 33/100 | 35/100 |
Left out because at least one model lacks the data: capability. The remaining weights were rescaled.
Every spec in one table
Highlighted cells lead their row. Dashes mean the data is not published.
| Specification | Hermes 4 405BNous Research | Qwen3 Max PreviewAlibaba (Qwen) | Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)Alibaba (Qwen) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Capability | |||
| Capabilities Index (ECI) | — | — | — |
| ECI rank | — | — | — |
| Price per million tokens | |||
| Input | $1.00 | $0.975 | $0.50 (best) |
| Output | $3.00 (best) | $4.14 | $6.00 |
| Cached input | — | — | — |
| Blended (3:1) | $1.50 (best) | $1.77 | $1.88 |
| Long-context rate | Same rate | Same rate | Same rate |
| Price source | Median of 5 providers | Median of 2 providers | Official Alibaba API |
| Limits | |||
| Context window | 131,072 tokens | 262,144 tokens (best) | 262,144 tokens (best) |
| Max output | 117,964 tokens (best) | 32,768 tokens | 32,768 tokens |
| Inputs and features | |||
| Text | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Images | No | No | No |
| PDFs | No | No | No |
| Audio | No | No | No |
| Video | No | No | No |
| Reasoning | Yes | No | Yes |
| Tool calling | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Structured output | No | No | No |
| Availability | |||
| Weights | Open | Proprietary | Open |
| API model ID | — | — | qwen3-next-80b-a3b-thinking |
| API providers | 5 | 2 | 7 (best) |
| Released | Aug 26, 2025 | Sep 5, 2025 | Sep 2025 |
| Knowledge cutoff | Aug 31, 2024 | Apr 2025 | Apr 2025 |
What would a month cost?
Enter your expected volume in millions of tokens. List prices only; caching and batch discounts would lower these.
- Hermes 4 405B$16.00
- Qwen3 Max Preview$18.03
- Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)$17.00
Which should you choose?
Which is better: Hermes 4 405B, Qwen3 Max Preview or Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)?
It is close. Our weighted score puts them within a point (Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) 35/100, Hermes 4 405B 35/100, Qwen3 Max Preview 33/100), so choose by what matters most for your work: Hermes 4 405B on price. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
Which is cheaper, Hermes 4 405B, Qwen3 Max Preview or Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking)?
Hermes 4 405B is cheaper at $1.00 input / $3.00 output per million tokens (median across 5 API providers). Qwen3 Max Preview costs $0.975 input / $4.14 output per million tokens (median across 2 API providers); Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) costs $0.50 input / $6.00 output per million tokens (official Alibaba API price). At a typical mix of three input tokens to one output token, that is $1.50 per million tokens for Hermes 4 405B versus $1.77 for Qwen3 Max Preview (1.2× as much) and $1.88 for Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) (1.3× as much).
Which scores higher on benchmarks?
There is no independent benchmark that covers all three models yet. Hermes 4 405B has not been scored yet, Qwen3 Max Preview has not been scored yet and Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) has not been scored yet.
Which is better for coding?
There are no published SWE-bench Verified results for Hermes 4 405B, Qwen3 Max Preview and Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) yet, so there is no like-for-like coding score. Test both on a sample of your own tasks. All three support tool calling for agent workflows.
Which has the bigger context window?
Qwen3 Max Preview and Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) have the largest context windows (262,144 and 262,144 tokens), against 131,072 for Hermes 4 405B. Maximum output per response: Hermes 4 405B up to 117,964, Qwen3 Max Preview up to 32,768, Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) up to 32,768 tokens.
Which can read images, PDFs, audio or video?
Hermes 4 405B accepts text; Qwen3 Max Preview accepts text; Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) accepts text. They handle the same number of input types.
Are any of these open source?
Hermes 4 405B and Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) publishes its weights and can be self-hosted; Qwen3 Max Preview is proprietary.
Which is newer?
Qwen3 Max Preview is the newest, released Sep 5, 2025. Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) came out Sep 2025; Hermes 4 405B came out Aug 26, 2025. Knowledge cutoff: Hermes 4 405B Aug 31, 2024, Qwen3 Max Preview Apr 2025, Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B (Thinking) Apr 2025.
How do you decide the winner?
Each model gets a 0–100 score on capability (50%, independent benchmark results); price (25%, blended price per million tokens (3 input : 1 output), log scale); inputs & features (15%, image, PDF, audio and video input, tool calling, structured output and reasoning); context window (10%, maximum tokens per request, log scale). Dimensions missing for any model are dropped and the remaining weights rescaled, so every model is judged on the same evidence. Specs and prices come from public model listings and the labs’ own API pages; capability scores come from independent benchmark runs. Data updated Nov 2, 2026.
