Hermes 3 405B Instruct vs Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct comes out ahead, 44 to 29 on our weighted score, and it is the cheaper option too.
Nous ResearchHermes 3 405B Instruct
29/100- ECI—
- Price$1.00 / $1.00
- Context131K
- Our pick
Alibaba (Qwen)Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
44/100- ECI—
- Price$0.905 / $1.00
- Context131K
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Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct is our pick
Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct is the better all-round choice, scoring 44/100 against Hermes 3 405B Instruct (29). It leads on inputs & features. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
- CapabilityNot enough dataNo independent benchmark covers every model here yet
- Lowest priceQwen2.5-VL 72B InstructQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct $0.93 · Hermes 3 405B Instruct $1.00 per 1M tokens (3:1 blend)
- Longest contextAbout the sameHermes 3 405B Instruct 131,072 · Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct 131,072 tokens
- Widest inputsQwen2.5-VL 72B InstructHermes 3 405B Instruct: Text · Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: Text, Images
- Self-hostingAll open weightsEvery model here can be downloaded and run on your own hardware
| Measure | Weight | Hermes 3 405B Instruct | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | 50% | 48 | 49 |
| Inputs & features | 30% | 0 | 50 |
| Context window | 20% | 25 | 25 |
| Overall | 100% | 29/100 | 44/100 |
Left out because at least one model lacks the data: capability. The remaining weights were rescaled.
Every spec in one table
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| Specification | Hermes 3 405B InstructNous Research | Qwen2.5-VL 72B InstructAlibaba (Qwen) |
|---|---|---|
| Capability | ||
| Capabilities Index (ECI) | — | — |
| ECI rank | — | — |
| Price per million tokens | ||
| Input | $1.00 | $0.905 (best) |
| Output | $1.00 (best) | $1.00 |
| Cached input | — | — |
| Blended (3:1) | $1.00 | $0.93 (best) |
| Long-context rate | Same rate | Same rate |
| Price source | Median of 5 providers | Median of 6 providers |
| Limits | ||
| Context window | 131,072 tokens | 131,072 tokens |
| Max output | 16,384 tokens (best) | 8,192 tokens |
| Inputs and features | ||
| Text | Yes | Yes |
| Images | No | Yes |
| PDFs | No | No |
| Audio | No | No |
| Video | No | No |
| Reasoning | No | No |
| Tool calling | No | Yes |
| Structured output | No | No |
| Availability | ||
| Weights | Open | Open |
| API model ID | — | — |
| API providers | 5 | 6 (best) |
| Released | Aug 16, 2024 | Jan 26, 2025 |
| Knowledge cutoff | Dec 31, 2023 | Apr 2024 |
What would a month cost?
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- Hermes 3 405B Instruct$12.00
- Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct$11.06
Which should you choose?
Which is better: Hermes 3 405B Instruct or Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct?
Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct is the better all-round choice, scoring 44/100 against Hermes 3 405B Instruct (29). It leads on inputs & features. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
Which is cheaper, Hermes 3 405B Instruct or Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct?
Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct is cheaper at $0.905 input / $1.00 output per million tokens (median across 6 API providers). Hermes 3 405B Instruct costs $1.00 input / $1.00 output per million tokens (median across 5 API providers). At a typical mix of three input tokens to one output token, that is $0.93 per million tokens for Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct versus $1.00 for Hermes 3 405B Instruct (1.1× as much).
Which scores higher on benchmarks?
There is no independent benchmark that covers both models yet. Hermes 3 405B Instruct has not been scored yet and Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct has not been scored yet.
Which is better for coding?
There are no published SWE-bench Verified results for Hermes 3 405B Instruct and Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct yet, so there is no like-for-like coding score. Test both on a sample of your own tasks. Note that Hermes 3 405B Instruct does not support tool calling, which most coding agents need.
Which has the bigger context window?
Hermes 3 405B Instruct and Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct share the same 131,072-token context window. Maximum output per response: Hermes 3 405B Instruct up to 16,384, Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct up to 8,192 tokens.
Which can read images, PDFs, audio or video?
Hermes 3 405B Instruct accepts text; Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct accepts text and images. Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct handles the widest range of inputs.
Are any of these open source?
Yes, both publish their weights, so you can self-host them.
Which is newer?
Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct is the newest, released Jan 26, 2025. Hermes 3 405B Instruct came out Aug 16, 2024. Knowledge cutoff: Hermes 3 405B Instruct Dec 31, 2023, Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct Apr 2024.
How do you decide the winner?
Each model gets a 0–100 score on capability (50%, independent benchmark results); price (25%, blended price per million tokens (3 input : 1 output), log scale); inputs & features (15%, image, PDF, audio and video input, tool calling, structured output and reasoning); context window (10%, maximum tokens per request, log scale). Dimensions missing for any model are dropped and the remaining weights rescaled, so every model is judged on the same evidence. Specs and prices come from public model listings and the labs’ own API pages; capability scores come from independent benchmark runs. Data updated Nov 2, 2026.
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