Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B vs Palmyra X4
Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B comes out ahead, 51 to 25 on our weighted score, and it is the cheaper option too.
- Our pick
Nous ResearchHermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B
51/100- ECI—
- Price$0.14 / $0.14
- Context8K
Writer
Palmyra X4
25/100- ECI—
- Price$2.50 / $10.00
- Context128K
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Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B is our pick
Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B is the better all-round choice, scoring 51/100 against Palmyra X4 (25). It leads on price. Palmyra X4 wins on inputs & features and context window. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
- CapabilityNot enough dataNo independent benchmark covers every model here yet
- Lowest priceHermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8BHermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B $0.14 · Palmyra X4 $4.38 per 1M tokens (3:1 blend)
- Longest contextPalmyra X4Palmyra X4 128,000 · Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B 8,192 tokens
- Widest inputsSame inputsHermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B: Text · Palmyra X4: Text
- Self-hostingHermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8BPublishes downloadable weights (Llama 3 Community License)
| Measure | Weight | Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B | Palmyra X4 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | 50% | 87 | 19 |
| Inputs & features | 30% | 25 | 35 |
| Context window | 20% | 0 | 24 |
| Overall | 100% | 51/100 | 25/100 |
Left out because at least one model lacks the data: capability. The remaining weights were rescaled.
Every spec in one table
Highlighted cells lead their row. Dashes mean the data is not published.
| Specification | Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8BNous Research | Palmyra X4Writer |
|---|---|---|
| Capability | ||
| Capabilities Index (ECI) | — | — |
| ECI rank | — | — |
| Price per million tokens | ||
| Input | $0.14 (best) | $2.50 |
| Output | $0.14 (best) | $10.00 |
| Cached input | — | — |
| Blended (3:1) | $0.14 (best) | $4.38 |
| Long-context rate | Same rate | Same rate |
| Price source | Median of 2 providers | Median of 2 providers |
| Limits | ||
| Context window | 8,192 tokens | 128,000 tokens (best) |
| Max output | 8,192 tokens (best) | 4,096 tokens |
| Inputs and features | ||
| Text | Yes | Yes |
| Images | No | No |
| PDFs | No | No |
| Audio | No | No |
| Video | No | No |
| Reasoning | No | Yes |
| Tool calling | Yes | Yes |
| Structured output | No | No |
| Availability | ||
| Weights | OpenLlama 3 Community License | Proprietary |
| API model ID | — | — |
| API providers | 2 | 2 |
| Released | Apr 30, 2024 | Oct 9, 2024 |
| Knowledge cutoff | — | — |
What would a month cost?
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- Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B$1.68
- Palmyra X4$45.00
Which should you choose?
Which is better: Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B or Palmyra X4?
Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B is the better all-round choice, scoring 51/100 against Palmyra X4 (25). It leads on price. Palmyra X4 wins on inputs & features and context window. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
Which is cheaper, Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B or Palmyra X4?
Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B is cheaper at $0.14 input / $0.14 output per million tokens (median across 2 API providers). Palmyra X4 costs $2.50 input / $10.00 output per million tokens (median across 2 API providers). At a typical mix of three input tokens to one output token, that is $0.14 per million tokens for Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B versus $4.38 for Palmyra X4 (31× as much).
Which scores higher on benchmarks?
There is no independent benchmark that covers both models yet. Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B has not been scored yet and Palmyra X4 has not been scored yet.
Which is better for coding?
There are no published SWE-bench Verified results for Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B and Palmyra X4 yet, so there is no like-for-like coding score. Test both on a sample of your own tasks. Both support tool calling for agent workflows.
Which has the bigger context window?
Palmyra X4 has the largest context window at 128,000 tokens, against 8,192 for Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B. Maximum output per response: Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B up to 8,192, Palmyra X4 up to 4,096 tokens.
Which can read images, PDFs, audio or video?
Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B accepts text; Palmyra X4 accepts text. They handle the same number of input types.
Are any of these open source?
Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B publishes its weights (Llama 3 Community License) and can be self-hosted; Palmyra X4 is proprietary.
Which is newer?
Palmyra X4 is the newest, released Oct 9, 2024. Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B came out Apr 30, 2024.
How do you decide the winner?
Each model gets a 0–100 score on capability (50%, independent benchmark results); price (25%, blended price per million tokens (3 input : 1 output), log scale); inputs & features (15%, image, PDF, audio and video input, tool calling, structured output and reasoning); context window (10%, maximum tokens per request, log scale). Dimensions missing for any model are dropped and the remaining weights rescaled, so every model is judged on the same evidence. Specs and prices come from public model listings and the labs’ own API pages; capability scores come from independent benchmark runs. Data updated Nov 2, 2026.
