Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B vs Aya Expanse 32B
Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B comes out ahead, 51 to 32 on our weighted score, and it is the cheaper option too.
- Our pick
Nous ResearchHermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B
51/100- ECI—
- Price$0.14 / $0.14
- Context8K
CohereAya Expanse 32B
32/100- ECI—
- Price$0.50 / $1.50
- Context128K
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Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B is our pick
Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B is the better all-round choice, scoring 51/100 against Aya Expanse 32B (32). It leads on price and inputs & features. Aya Expanse 32B wins on context window. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
- CapabilityNot enough dataNo independent benchmark covers every model here yet
- Lowest priceHermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8BHermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B $0.14 · Aya Expanse 32B $0.75 per 1M tokens (3:1 blend)
- Longest contextAya Expanse 32BAya Expanse 32B 128,000 · Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B 8,192 tokens
- Widest inputsSame inputsHermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B: Text · Aya Expanse 32B: Text
- Self-hostingAll open weightsEvery model here can be downloaded and run on your own hardware
| Measure | Weight | Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B | Aya Expanse 32B |
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | 50% | 87 | 53 |
| Inputs & features | 30% | 25 | 0 |
| Context window | 20% | 0 | 24 |
| Overall | 100% | 51/100 | 32/100 |
Left out because at least one model lacks the data: capability. The remaining weights were rescaled.
Every spec in one table
Highlighted cells lead their row. Dashes mean the data is not published.
| Specification | Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8BNous Research | Aya Expanse 32BCohere |
|---|---|---|
| Capability | ||
| Capabilities Index (ECI) | — | — |
| ECI rank | — | — |
| Price per million tokens | ||
| Input | $0.14 (best) | $0.50 |
| Output | $0.14 (best) | $1.50 |
| Cached input | — | — |
| Blended (3:1) | $0.14 (best) | $0.75 |
| Long-context rate | Same rate | Same rate |
| Price source | Median of 2 providers | Official Cohere API |
| Limits | ||
| Context window | 8,192 tokens | 128,000 tokens (best) |
| Max output | 8,192 tokens (best) | 4,000 tokens |
| Inputs and features | ||
| Text | Yes | Yes |
| Images | No | No |
| PDFs | No | No |
| Audio | No | No |
| Video | No | No |
| Reasoning | No | No |
| Tool calling | Yes | No |
| Structured output | No | No |
| Availability | ||
| Weights | OpenLlama 3 Community License | OpenCC-BY-NC-4.0 |
| API model ID | — | c4ai-aya-expanse-32b |
| API providers | 2 | 2 |
| Released | Apr 30, 2024 | Oct 24, 2024 |
| Knowledge cutoff | — | — |
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- Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B$1.68
- Aya Expanse 32B$8.00
Which should you choose?
Which is better: Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B or Aya Expanse 32B?
Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B is the better all-round choice, scoring 51/100 against Aya Expanse 32B (32). It leads on price and inputs & features. Aya Expanse 32B wins on context window. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
Which is cheaper, Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B or Aya Expanse 32B?
Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B is cheaper at $0.14 input / $0.14 output per million tokens (median across 2 API providers). Aya Expanse 32B costs $0.50 input / $1.50 output per million tokens (official Cohere API price). At a typical mix of three input tokens to one output token, that is $0.14 per million tokens for Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B versus $0.75 for Aya Expanse 32B (5.4× as much).
Which scores higher on benchmarks?
There is no independent benchmark that covers both models yet. Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B has not been scored yet and Aya Expanse 32B has not been scored yet.
Which is better for coding?
There are no published SWE-bench Verified results for Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B and Aya Expanse 32B yet, so there is no like-for-like coding score. Test both on a sample of your own tasks. Note that Aya Expanse 32B does not support tool calling, which most coding agents need.
Which has the bigger context window?
Aya Expanse 32B has the largest context window at 128,000 tokens, against 8,192 for Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B. Maximum output per response: Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B up to 8,192, Aya Expanse 32B up to 4,000 tokens.
Which can read images, PDFs, audio or video?
Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B accepts text; Aya Expanse 32B accepts text. They handle the same number of input types.
Are any of these open source?
Yes, both publish their weights (Llama 3 Community License and CC-BY-NC-4.0), so you can self-host them.
Which is newer?
Aya Expanse 32B is the newest, released Oct 24, 2024. Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B came out Apr 30, 2024.
How do you decide the winner?
Each model gets a 0–100 score on capability (50%, independent benchmark results); price (25%, blended price per million tokens (3 input : 1 output), log scale); inputs & features (15%, image, PDF, audio and video input, tool calling, structured output and reasoning); context window (10%, maximum tokens per request, log scale). Dimensions missing for any model are dropped and the remaining weights rescaled, so every model is judged on the same evidence. Specs and prices come from public model listings and the labs’ own API pages; capability scores come from independent benchmark runs. Data updated Nov 2, 2026.
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