Qwen3.8 Max vs Viv Fast
Viv Fast comes out ahead, 75 to 53 on our weighted score, and it is the cheaper option too.
Alibaba (Qwen)Qwen3.8 Max
53/100- ECI156.6
- Price$2.00 / $6.00
- Context1M
- Our pick
VivgridViv Fast
75/100- ECI—
- Price$0.13 / $0.40
- Context1M
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Viv Fast is our pick
Viv Fast is the better all-round choice, scoring 75/100 against Qwen3.8 Max (53). It leads on price. Qwen3.8 Max wins on inputs & features. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
- CapabilityNot enough dataNo independent benchmark covers every model here yet
- Lowest priceViv FastViv Fast $0.198 · Qwen3.8 Max $3.00 per 1M tokens (3:1 blend)
- Longest contextAbout the sameQwen3.8 Max 1,000,000 · Viv Fast 1,000,000 tokens
- Widest inputsQwen3.8 MaxQwen3.8 Max: Text, Images, PDFs, Video · Viv Fast: Text, Images
- Self-hostingNo open weightsBoth are available only through APIs
| Measure | Weight | Qwen3.8 Max | Viv Fast |
|---|---|---|---|
| Price | 50% | 27 | 83 |
| Inputs & features | 30% | 90 | 70 |
| Context window | 20% | 60 | 60 |
| Overall | 100% | 53/100 | 75/100 |
Left out because at least one model lacks the data: capability. The remaining weights were rescaled.
Every spec in one table
Highlighted cells lead their row. Dashes mean the data is not published.
| Specification | Qwen3.8 MaxAlibaba (Qwen) | Viv FastVivgrid |
|---|---|---|
| Capability | ||
| Capabilities Index (ECI) | 156.6 | — |
| ECI rank | #20 of 148 | — |
| GPQA DiamondGraduate-level science questions | 92.7% | — |
| FrontierMath Tiers 1–3Research-level mathematics | 74.7% | — |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024–2025Competition mathematics | 99.4% | — |
| SimpleQA VerifiedShort factual questions | 45.8% | — |
| Price per million tokens | ||
| Input | $2.00 | $0.13 (best) |
| Output | $6.00 | $0.40 (best) |
| Cached input | $0.25 | $0.05 (best) |
| Blended (3:1) | $3.00 | $0.198 (best) |
| Long-context rate | Same rate | Same rate |
| Price source | Official Alibaba API | Official Vivgrid API |
| Limits | ||
| Context window | 1,000,000 tokens | 1,000,000 tokens |
| Max output | 131,072 tokens | 256,000 tokens (best) |
| Inputs and features | ||
| Text | Yes | Yes |
| Images | Yes | Yes |
| PDFs | Yes | No |
| Audio | No | No |
| Video | Yes | No |
| Reasoning | Yeslow · medium · xhigh | Yeslow · high · max |
| Tool calling | Yes | Yes |
| Structured output | Yes | Yes |
| Availability | ||
| Weights | Proprietary | Proprietary |
| API model ID | qwen3.8-max | viv-fast |
| API providers | 25 (best) | 1 |
| Released | Aug 3, 2026 | Sep 21, 2026 |
| Knowledge cutoff | — | Sep 2026 |
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- Qwen3.8 Max$32.00
- Viv Fast$2.10
Which should you choose?
Which is better: Qwen3.8 Max or Viv Fast?
Viv Fast is the better all-round choice, scoring 75/100 against Qwen3.8 Max (53). It leads on price. Qwen3.8 Max wins on inputs & features. The score weighs price 50%, inputs & features 30%, context window 20%. None of the shared benchmarks cover every model here yet, so capability is left out of this verdict.
Which is cheaper, Qwen3.8 Max or Viv Fast?
Viv Fast is cheaper at $0.13 input / $0.40 output per million tokens (official Vivgrid API price). Qwen3.8 Max costs $2.00 input / $6.00 output per million tokens (official Alibaba API price). At a typical mix of three input tokens to one output token, that is $0.198 per million tokens for Viv Fast versus $3.00 for Qwen3.8 Max (15× as much).
Which scores higher on benchmarks?
There is no independent benchmark that covers both models yet. Qwen3.8 Max has an ECI of 156.6 and Viv Fast has not been scored yet.
Which is better for coding?
There are no published SWE-bench Verified results for Qwen3.8 Max and Viv Fast yet, so there is no like-for-like coding score. Test both on a sample of your own tasks. Both support tool calling for agent workflows.
Which has the bigger context window?
Qwen3.8 Max and Viv Fast share the same 1,000,000-token context window. Maximum output per response: Qwen3.8 Max up to 131,072, Viv Fast up to 256,000 tokens.
Which can read images, PDFs, audio or video?
Qwen3.8 Max accepts text, images, PDFs and video; Viv Fast accepts text and images. Qwen3.8 Max handles the widest range of inputs.
Are any of these open source?
No. Qwen3.8 Max and Viv Fast are proprietary and only available through APIs and apps.
Which is newer?
Viv Fast is the newest, released Sep 21, 2026. Qwen3.8 Max came out Aug 3, 2026. Knowledge cutoff: Viv Fast Sep 2026.
How do you decide the winner?
Each model gets a 0–100 score on capability (50%, independent benchmark results); price (25%, blended price per million tokens (3 input : 1 output), log scale); inputs & features (15%, image, PDF, audio and video input, tool calling, structured output and reasoning); context window (10%, maximum tokens per request, log scale). Dimensions missing for any model are dropped and the remaining weights rescaled, so every model is judged on the same evidence. Specs and prices come from public model listings and the labs’ own API pages; capability scores come from independent benchmark runs. Data updated Oct 4, 2026.
